Most days at the ESPN offices, a conversation about the state of the wrestling
world or the events of the week inevitably happens between?editors Tim Fiorvanti
and Brian Campbell.
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. When the topic of Survivor Series came up, they decided to put the
conversation on pause and correspond via email, so as to record their
suggestions and predictions for the card (with a particular focus on the three
traditional Survivor Series matches) in an effort to address the biggest
opportunities and challenges.Heres what they had to say.Tim Fiorvanti: Its so
nice to be able to talk about Survivor Series as a pay-per-vew that really
matters. I actually had to look up the two matches from last year -- would you
believe the winning teams were?Dudley Boyz,?Goldust?and?Titus ONeil?in a
pre-show match, and Ryback,?Kalisto?and?Jey Uso?getting a win over a team that
featured all three members of?The New Day?Brian Campbell: Was it really that
bad? Wow. This is a case in which the brand split really helps raise the stakes;
Nov. 20 will mark the first time superstars from opposite rosters will be on the
same card since SummerSlam. The timing seems just about right to break up the
monotonous feeling that can develop when there are so many brand-specific
pay-per-views in such a short time.Tim: We cant completely dismiss Survivor
Series over the past few years. In 2014, we got the WWE debut of Sting and a big
victory for?Dolph Ziggler, who was the sole survivor in the main event. Even if
the result was essentially?nullified a short time later, it was the second time
in three years that Ziggler was the sole survivor in a high-profile elimination
match.Brian:?Lets not forget that Survivor Series 2015 served as the tournament
for the WWE world title after?Seth Rollins knee injury (with?Sheamus?cashing in
his briefcase immediately after?Roman Reigns?defeated?Dean
Ambrose?for?the?title). But then again, any PPV that spawned the Sheamus 5:15
T-shirt is probably better off forgotten.Tim: How can WWE make sure that this is
a memorable card and not just another house of cards built around brand
supremacy that the superstars themselves shouldnt particularly care about?Brian:
The biggest potential pitfall for me is how WWE decides to handle the concept of
Raw versus Smackdown matches within the framework of a traditional Survivor
Series elimination match. Theres a reason why this PPVs format has changed over
the years, and ultimately, its because these traditional matches, while
nostalgic, dont tend to really prove anything on their own.Before we get too
deep into fantasy booking this supercard, we need a must-see main event to
anchor things. What is your take on the likely rematch between a returning
Goldberg and?Brock Lesnar?Tim: Its going to be the main event, for better or
worse. I imagine there will be a couple of world title matches and a few other
contests, but this spectacle has been built up to take center-stage. I
think?opinions on this match are very polarized. There are a lot of people who
are very excited for the match; you could hear that from the reaction Goldberg
received from the Raw crowd in Denver. I think the fans will?get what theyre
looking for -- two big guys beating the ever-loving crap out of each other, with
some spears and a bunch of suplexes thrown in.The other half of that equation:
the crowd that remembers just how bad that initial match was received. Both guys
were on their way out of the WWE, and the only person who received a good
reaction in that match was special guest referee Stone Cold Steve Austin, who
delivered a stunner to each man.Are expectations going to be too high for this
match? Yes. Could it be fun? Sure. Will Goldberg get Lesnar up for a Jackhammer?
Not a chance.Brian: I think it all depends upon how well WWE builds up the
49-year-old Goldberg as a physical threat to Lesnar over the next four weeks;
itll help determine whether this match will merely be delightful nostalgia or a
real cant-miss event. Goldberg handled his initial promo, showing depth and
multiple facets to his character for arguably the first time ever, but Im not
convinced he can gain sympathy as a pure babyface. Hell need to land a
believable spear or two for full validation.The rest of the card should be fun,
too. For the Universal championship on Raw, I dont think there is anyone right
now who would turn down a program between?Kevin Owens?and?Chris Jericho, in a
sort of quasi-heel version?of Randy Savage and Hulk Hogans The Mega Powers
Explode. On the SmackDown side, the WWE championship could do much worse than an
eventual?AJ Styles-Ambrose blow off. Once James Ellsworth steps out?of the
picture, that feud should heat up nicely over the next month.Tim: Bray
Wyatt?versus?Randy Orton?in a casket match will likely round out the card, but
we mostly just want to dig into these three traditional Survivor Series matches
that should offer the most potentially landscape-shifting?results. Lets get to
it.5-on-5 tag team Survivor Series match:Team SmackDown (Heath
Slater?&?Rhyno,?The Usos,?American Alpha,?The Hype Bros?and?The
Ascension)?vs. Team Raw (The New Day,?Enzo & Big Cass,?The
Club,?Cesaro?&?Sheamus and The Golden Truth)Tim: In the tag team Survivor
Series match, lets say any pairing that makes it through to the end of the match
on the winning side gets a future tag-team title match. Its a low-impact
framework for heel and face teams to work cohesively. Assuming we want to
include The New Day and Slater & Rhyno, Ill let you come up with a benefit
for either of those two sets of champions, should they make it to the end of the
match.Brian: I can totally get down with a future title match. Its not that Ive
become a stipulation guy for the mere sake of it, but WWE needs to give us a
reason to care. If it comes down to putting a new backyard playground on the
line for Slaters kids, or getting The New Day new cereal bowls or some other
benefit to be named later, that should suffice.SmackDowns team might be the
perfect mix of youth, athleticism, technical ability and jobbers, but it still
pales in comparison, talent-wise, to what Raw can produce.Tim: Ill concede
theres a lot more firepower on your side, and theres a far more urgent need for
teams to have a genuine reason to challenge the seemingly unassailable tag team
title run of The New Day. This could be the culmination of The Clubs
resurrection project after they beat Enzo & Big Cass at Hell in a Cell. Im
thinking Golden Truth, Ascension, Cesaro & Sheamus and The Hype Bros will
probably be early cannon fodder to make the other teams look good. In terms of
telling or furthering a story on SmackDown, Im thinking you have the feud boil
over between The Usos and American Alpha -- and potentially even cost Slater
& Rhyno an early-ish pinfall. I like American Alpha to be the last team
standing as sort of a moral victory. How do you see things playing out?Brian:
Thats some tremendous booking out of you there. And when you talk about moral
victories and consolation prizes, I think your tease regarding The Club
ultimately proves to be true. It appears WWE is committed to giving The New Day
a chance to break Demolitions record for the longest title reign, but
having?Luke Gallows?and?Karl Anderson?run roughshod in this match seems to be
the best move to make for their characters. They should have no trouble drawing
heat by cheating in a vicious manner to sneak past American Alpha.Result: Luke
Gallows and Karl Anderson are the sole survivors, last defeating American
Alpha.Tim: It seems only natural to let you take the lead with the womens 5-on-5
match. I think this is a massive?spectacle since its the?first time that the
womens champions will face off against one another.5-on-5 womens Survivor Series
match:Team Raw (Charlotte,?Sasha Banks,?Bayley,?Dana Brooke?and?Nia Jax) vs.
Team?SmackDown?(Becky Lynch,?Alexa Bliss,?Natalya,?Nikki
Bella?and?Carmella)Brian: This match is the most intriguing of the three
traditional Survivor Series matches on paper, mostly because we have never seen
a womens division this deep in WWE. There has also been a marked difference
between the way each division has been booked on either show. Raw is incredibly
top-heavy with talent while lagging behind in creativity and consistency,
outside of the ongoing (and incredible) Charlotte-Banks feud. SmackDown, on the
other hand, has spread the wealth around when it comes to giving each superstar
ample time to allow their characters to evolve with more exposure.What do you
think is at stake in this match? I have incredibly high expectations after what
we saw in the SmackDown Six Pack Challenge at Backlash.Tim: SmackDown is always
going to have a chip on its shoulder when its compared to Raw. I think thats
what you saw in that Six Pack challenge. I think its another chance to prove
that younger up-and-comers such as Alexa Bliss and Carmella can hang with the
top three from Raw.?And this is the first time (at this level) that well have
all of the Four Horsewomen in one match. How do you see it going down?Brian:
When you consider Raw has the top three female superstars in the company, and
potentially its most intriguing prospect in Nia Jax, one might guess this match
is a setup to showcase the scrappy, underdog attitude of the SmackDown brand to
which you alluded. Ultimately, the biggest intrigue will be how many of these
rivals co-exist on the same team, from Charlotte and Sasha to Nikki and
Carmella.Tim: SmackDowns depth of storytelling and number of concurrent
storylines might ultimately hold the key to their defeat in this particular
match. Between Lynch and Bliss, and Carmella and Nikki, theres not going to be a
lot of team cohesion, unless it gets down to a pairing of just Lynch and Nikki
(or a trio if?Naomi?is in the match instead of Natalya). I think the star power
is going to be too much for SmackDown to overcome -- especially with what the
women on Raw are set to do at Hell in a?Cell.Brian: Ultimately, you make a great
point. Raws star power trumps just about everything else, and it?has the one
superstar of the 10 who could most benefit from the push that comes with being
the last woman standing -- and thats Nia Jax.Result: Nia Jax is the sole
survivor, last defeating Nikki Bella.Tim: I like it. Now we move onto the final
contest: the 5-on-5 mens match.5-on-5 mens Survivor Series match:Team Raw (Seth
Rollins, Roman Reigns,?Rusev,?Sami Zayn?and?TJ Perkins) vs. Team?SmackDown?(John
Cena,?The Miz,?Dolph Ziggler,?Kane?and?Baron Corbin)Tim: With Orton and Wyatt
looking as though theyre heading toward a casket match, Ive taken them off of
the team Id originally put together -- and that leaves a pretty big hole. With
SmackDown needing a win in this one to avoid the sweep, Im proposing a team of
The Miz, Dolph Ziggler, Kane, Baron Corbin and John Cena. This will obviously
pale in comparison to Raws team, but this ragtag bunch actually has a fair bit
working in its favor.Brian: If were looking at the overall storyline of the
brand extension from a distance, it would make sense for WWE to give the
underdog SmackDown brand a win here in what?amounts to the most important of the
three traditional Survivor Series matches. SmackDown was dealt a much lighter
hand when it comes to resources in the July 19 draft, but the show has continued
to win over the hearts of fans within this scripted brand versus brand war. Its
important that WWE keeps an ongoing storyline of competition, with the pair of
commissioners and general managers (Stephanie McMahon and Mick Foley on Raw
versus Shane McMahon and Daniel Bryan on SmackDown) as the focal point on the
rare occasion Raw and SmackDown come together.To this end, having SmackDown win
the most important match makes sense. But if Im booking for Raw, I still roll
out my best possible team of stars, which in this case (excluding those involved
with other matches) would include Roman Reigns, Seth Rollins, Rusev, Sami Zayn
and TJ Perkins.Tim: Wow, that is a heck of a team, and I think were seeing
eye-to-eye here. Since this is the biggest and most important match, lets raise
the stakes and get something accomplished at the same time -- the winning team
gets to draft a member of the losing team to their roster. I have an idea in my
mind for how this scenario can play out, but Im going to let you make your pitch
before I drop the hammer.Brian: I love?that stipulation. How about we raise the
stakes and force the losing team to vote its member off, similar to Survivor? I
mean, this is the Survivor Series, right? That extra layer of detail could end
up playing into future storylines, especially if members of the same team who
are natural adversaries are forced to work together with real consequences.Tim:
I can definitely work with that, and it?helps solve a problem well have in terms
of what we want to accomplish, which is quite a bit.Brian: I wouldnt mind seeing
Reigns and Rollins capitalize on Rollins current babyface potential by teaming
up in the lead-up to Survivor Series in a mini Shield reunion, with the full
intention of breaking them apart in a major way in 2017. We saw the two of them
feud briefly in 2016, including Rollins defeat of Reigns for the title at Money
in the Bank before Dean Ambrose cashed in later that night. Im ready to see
more.Tim: Lets get to the match itself. I think you continue with Corbins
tendency of brutalizing smaller guys and have him take out TJP (after some
high-flying spots, of course). If were really talking about a SmackDown win,
Cenas going to have to do a bit of dirty work to take out heavy hitters such as
Reigns, Rollins and Rusev in a believable way.I have two goals in mind: giving
The Miz a reason to contend for the WWE world championship and bringing Zayn
over to SmackDown, where I think hell flourish rather than languishing in his
current state of uncertainty. I think having Miz steal the glory from Cena (and
cheating in the process) to eliminate Rollins at the end is the perfect way to
give Miz a huge win -- and it immediately puts him into the world title
picture.By making the losing team vote off a member, as you suggested, you have
a good moment to open Raw and start the build toward the Royal Rumble the
following night. It gives Zayn a chance in the land of opportunity -- a place in
which the GM brags about having James Ellsworth instead of Goldberg -- and the
timing will be especially fortuitous if Zayn suffers the destructive fate at the
hands of Braun Strowman that seems inevitable after their confrontation on
Raw.Result: Miz and Cena are the sole survivors, with Miz picking up the final
pinfall on Rollins. Zayn joins SmackDown Live.
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